Ventura 10 very definitely does numbered lists. Personally, I find Ventura's method vastly preferable to the more common approach of treating the number as a bullet. In Ventura, in the Chapter Properties dialog on the AutoNumber tab, you specify the number of levels and the tag associated with each level. Ventura automatically creates a separate paragraph and tag for the number.
Not only does this approach provide more consistent results, it opens up wide possibilities for formatting. (n addition, you don't have to contend with the system insisting on creating number bullets any time you begin a paragraph with a number.)
As for Framemaker's XML "roundtripping", everything I've read indicates that under the hood it isn't nearly as functional or usable as it appears on the surface. Perhaps Ventura's "single tripping" isn't so far behind after all. :>)
Once a worthy page layout program, it is now abandoned by its makers and support for it is negligible at best. I have yet to find a third-party support book for Version 10. I would emphasize right HERE that this program is NOT for novices!
True, all of the 'features' may have cost $10,000 extra for Quark Express - in 1998 - but today these features (and many, many others) are standard in both Quark Express and InDesign, which are both widely used and supported. It is more stable than Quark 4.0, I will give it that - but Quark last put that out in 1999. Even a modern version of MS Word can create a business report that is equal to Ventura's capabilities.
Like Corel's other offerings, many commonly used features are buried within menus. The more useful panels, which control the frames and tables, are buried in the menus, and cover a good section of the screen - and the portions of the work you are adjusting. If you need to adjust another part of the page - close the panel, and open it up again. All very tedious and time-consuming compared to other programs.
Another annoyance is the "Tags" - in every other program, style sheets. If you need to bold one word, using the standard "click the B icon" the entire tag for paragraphs gets change to reflect that one minor change. So you have to create a new paragraph or character style sheet EVERY time you want to make a minor variation to text - even to see if it "works". The other text handling features are rudimentary at best.
In short, this, like many other Corel products is guaranteed to waste endless hours of time and will have you tearing your hair out by the end of any project exceeding three pages. Stick with the real players - Adobe, Microsoft and Quark - if you want to get any real creative, stable work done.
_DO NOT BUY_
Submitted by solitare_pax on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 15:50.
Correction: You *can* do numbered lists
Ventura 10 very definitely does numbered lists. Personally, I find Ventura's method vastly preferable to the more common approach of treating the number as a bullet. In Ventura, in the Chapter Properties dialog on the AutoNumber tab, you specify the number of levels and the tag associated with each level. Ventura automatically creates a separate paragraph and tag for the number.
Not only does this approach provide more consistent results, it opens up wide possibilities for formatting. (n addition, you don't have to contend with the system insisting on creating number bullets any time you begin a paragraph with a number.)
As for Framemaker's XML "roundtripping", everything I've read indicates that under the hood it isn't nearly as functional or usable as it appears on the surface. Perhaps Ventura's "single tripping" isn't so far behind after all. :>)
Great for 1992 era layouts
Once a worthy page layout program, it is now abandoned by its makers and support for it is negligible at best. I have yet to find a third-party support book for Version 10. I would emphasize right HERE that this program is NOT for novices!
True, all of the 'features' may have cost $10,000 extra for Quark Express - in 1998 - but today these features (and many, many others) are standard in both Quark Express and InDesign, which are both widely used and supported. It is more stable than Quark 4.0, I will give it that - but Quark last put that out in 1999. Even a modern version of MS Word can create a business report that is equal to Ventura's capabilities.
Like Corel's other offerings, many commonly used features are buried within menus. The more useful panels, which control the frames and tables, are buried in the menus, and cover a good section of the screen - and the portions of the work you are adjusting. If you need to adjust another part of the page - close the panel, and open it up again. All very tedious and time-consuming compared to other programs.
Another annoyance is the "Tags" - in every other program, style sheets. If you need to bold one word, using the standard "click the B icon" the entire tag for paragraphs gets change to reflect that one minor change. So you have to create a new paragraph or character style sheet EVERY time you want to make a minor variation to text - even to see if it "works". The other text handling features are rudimentary at best.
In short, this, like many other Corel products is guaranteed to waste endless hours of time and will have you tearing your hair out by the end of any project exceeding three pages. Stick with the real players - Adobe, Microsoft and Quark - if you want to get any real creative, stable work done.
_DO NOT BUY_