1. A text to paths/outlines tool that actually works? Text to box is a joke.
2. A way to change a link without hiding the original so Quark thinks the original file is missing? It's 2008, there's simply no excuse...
In fact, that's pretty much my summation of Quark overallt: it's 2008, why use a program that's still living in 1995? InDesign is no less than six thousand times better than Quark at, well, everything. And regardless of what this article says I don't hold out much hope for v8 to be any different.
The best hope for XPress is for Quark to quietly go out of business.
Submitted by Brian Pylant on Thu, 05/29/2008 - 12:22.
The main issue with Quark is that TRANSPARENCY does not work on the Leopard OS, while it worked beautifully on Tiger. This means one can no longer use drop shadows, screened boxes, etc. - and affects anything with less than 100% opacity. This is a HUGE issue for creatives since this feature alone added so much to the richness of designs.
It seems to be a problem with post script, because files will not print to a PS printer, export as a PDF file, print to Acrobat distiller, save as a EPS, etc. You get an error message that says: "not enough memory to rasterize a transparent element..."
This feature works in InDesign, but InDesign's shadows are not as pretty as Quark's - no matter what you do to them.
You did not address this issue. I would love to stay with Quark - all of my files are in Quark. None of the "new" features of version 8 will be worth it, if the TRANSPARENCY problem has not been fixed.
Submitted by lavitared on Thu, 06/05/2008 - 07:36.
I don't see why the ID folks have to be hatin' There's room for more than one and I'm sorry but multiple, synchronized layouts, collaboration zones and Job Jackets, not to mention superior hanging punctuation and typographic grids makes this a high-tech alternative to the long-in-the-tooth Pagestratorshop of InDesign. Adobe interfaces have become so boring since they insisted on everybody to conform and obey.
The interface is horribly fugly! Looks like the UI designer got some bad crack or something. What is with this company, can they get ANYTHING right?
I agree with Terry. Please buy this upgrade... otherwise Quark will go out of business and I won't have anything to remind me of how great InDesign is.
Okay, so I'm kidding. But really, I wish somebody would buy Quark outright and do something with XPress.
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Submitted by TheGraphicMac on Sat, 06/21/2008 - 03:17.
People really need to try this version out, go download the demo - Ive used a mixed bag of both Indesign and Quark over the last few years within several jobs.
I have always swayed in Indesigns favor in the past purely due to the features - Quark 6 was dated and although 7 was better it still never felt quite there.
I have been using Quark 8 for the last 3 weeks and I would be happy to say its a far better environment to design in than CS3, very intuitive, stable and actually fun to use.
In the 70s type setting was Berthold, Morgenthaler, Linotype, Scangraphic.
In the 80s desktop publishing was Aldus and Quark.
In the 90s print publishing was Quark and Adobe.
In the 2000s publishing is Adobe and Quark.
In the 10s publishing will be Adobe and maybe something else (Open Source).
So what?
A layout software which still can’t scroll through field values via arrow keys is historic.
Thanks, Quark. Therre was a time you did a great job.
Now world goes on.
Submitted by quarkwhat on Tue, 11/04/2008 - 03:55.
I suspect a large number of XPress users are still a few revisions behind simply because the new features in the last few versions weren't enough to persuade users to either spend the money or make a solid adtech ile reklam 2.0 dönemi başlıyor ve Trkycmhrytllbtpydrklcktr r10.net seo yarışması commitment. Thanks to some significant changes in version 8, it’s time for those hold outs to take a new look.
Submitted by Cristiano on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:52.
With version 8, Quark has given the nod to the design community and is clearly no longer resting on its production laurels. For many established designers, it’s probably too late to generate much excitement. But it seems as if this version of XPress is targeted at new users as much as old ones, and there is a steady flow of new designers entering the market who are taking a fresh look at the tools available to them. When put into that perspective, QuarkXPress 8 initially looks pretty good. Nicely summed up mate. Thanks. Mike from how to get taller and fat loss 4 idiots guide.
I have worked as a preflight coordinator for many years - and of all the files I get about 2% are from InDesign people - everyone else is still using Quark.
QuarkXpress 8
Looks like an ugly interface & toolbar.
Quark will never catch up to the classiness & grace that InDesign is.
I love to hate Quark, but...
we all know competition is healthy for us all. Would some of you Quark diehards please buy this version to keep hope alive?
Does Quark 8 have...
1. A text to paths/outlines tool that actually works? Text to box is a joke.
2. A way to change a link without hiding the original so Quark thinks the original file is missing? It's 2008, there's simply no excuse...
In fact, that's pretty much my summation of Quark overallt: it's 2008, why use a program that's still living in 1995? InDesign is no less than six thousand times better than Quark at, well, everything. And regardless of what this article says I don't hold out much hope for v8 to be any different.
The best hope for XPress is for Quark to quietly go out of business.
TRANSPARENCY
The main issue with Quark is that TRANSPARENCY does not work on the Leopard OS, while it worked beautifully on Tiger. This means one can no longer use drop shadows, screened boxes, etc. - and affects anything with less than 100% opacity. This is a HUGE issue for creatives since this feature alone added so much to the richness of designs.
It seems to be a problem with post script, because files will not print to a PS printer, export as a PDF file, print to Acrobat distiller, save as a EPS, etc. You get an error message that says: "not enough memory to rasterize a transparent element..."
This feature works in InDesign, but InDesign's shadows are not as pretty as Quark's - no matter what you do to them.
You did not address this issue. I would love to stay with Quark - all of my files are in Quark. None of the "new" features of version 8 will be worth it, if the TRANSPARENCY problem has not been fixed.
Looks great to me!
I don't see why the ID folks have to be hatin' There's room for more than one and I'm sorry but multiple, synchronized layouts, collaboration zones and Job Jackets, not to mention superior hanging punctuation and typographic grids makes this a high-tech alternative to the long-in-the-tooth Pagestratorshop of InDesign. Adobe interfaces have become so boring since they insisted on everybody to conform and obey.
Go Quark, go!
Eeeewwww!
The interface is horribly fugly! Looks like the UI designer got some bad crack or something. What is with this company, can they get ANYTHING right?
I agree with Terry. Please buy this upgrade... otherwise Quark will go out of business and I won't have anything to remind me of how great InDesign is.
Okay, so I'm kidding. But really, I wish somebody would buy Quark outright and do something with XPress.
Visit TheGraphicMac.com – All the smart people do!
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Quark 8
People really need to try this version out, go download the demo - Ive used a mixed bag of both Indesign and Quark over the last few years within several jobs.
I have always swayed in Indesigns favor in the past purely due to the features - Quark 6 was dated and although 7 was better it still never felt quite there.
I have been using Quark 8 for the last 3 weeks and I would be happy to say its a far better environment to design in than CS3, very intuitive, stable and actually fun to use.
Let’s look ahead
In the 70s type setting was Berthold, Morgenthaler, Linotype, Scangraphic.
In the 80s desktop publishing was Aldus and Quark.
In the 90s print publishing was Quark and Adobe.
In the 2000s publishing is Adobe and Quark.
In the 10s publishing will be Adobe and maybe something else (Open Source).
So what?
A layout software which still can’t scroll through field values via arrow keys is historic.
Thanks, Quark. Therre was a time you did a great job.
Now world goes on.
I suspect a large number of
I suspect a large number of XPress users are still a few revisions behind simply because the new features in the last few versions weren't enough to persuade users to either spend the money or make a solid adtech ile reklam 2.0 dönemi başlıyor ve Trkycmhrytllbtpydrklcktr r10.net seo yarışması commitment. Thanks to some significant changes in version 8, it’s time for those hold outs to take a new look.
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hate Quark, but...
we all know competition is healthy sohbet for us all. Would some of you Quark diehards please buy this version to keep hope alive?
I love Quark & Hate ID, thats how it goes
MACUser awrad for 2008 goes to QuarkXPress 8. Its not just hope but going ahead in race.
With version 8, Quark has
With version 8, Quark has given the nod to the design community and is clearly no longer resting on its production laurels. For many established designers, it’s probably too late to generate much excitement. But it seems as if this version of XPress is targeted at new users as much as old ones, and there is a steady flow of new designers entering the market who are taking a fresh look at the tools available to them. When put into that perspective, QuarkXPress 8 initially looks pretty good. Nicely summed up mate. Thanks. Mike from how to get taller and fat loss 4 idiots guide.
Preflight Professional
I have worked as a preflight coordinator for many years - and of all the files I get about 2% are from InDesign people - everyone else is still using Quark.