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First off, wow. I love it. Not just the shiny new (although I miss your sunny colours), but the ease of getting around has been improved greatly. Items don't seem buried anymore, but at the fingertips in a logical manner. Nice.

Two suggestions:

1) In the forum, have a personal section - 'introduce yourself', 'off topic', etc.

2) In 'View Articles by', I'm not sure 'date' is needed. It takes up space and isn't really something that one would search for, unlike by author or subject.

Question: What's the difference between the different kinds of articles (features, reviews, how-tos, news) and the blog posts?

Anyway, I'm loving it. I can see spending time at your improved community.

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Printer-friendly pages without ads are HERE!

Hi all,

You may have noticed that when you now click on the printer icon, you get a page with an article's text and images only -- no ads!!

Terri Stone
Editor in Chief, CreativePro.com

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Re: Drupal themes

Hi spamjim,

We're aware of the ability for users to choose themes and even considered having a theme that incorporated the previous site's blue and yellow colors. However, our Drupal developers ran into some unexpected complications and we decided to put it on hold. Maybe someday though!

Terri Stone
Editor in Chief, CreativePro.com

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Kudos for moving to Drupal

Kudos for moving to Drupal to make it a more social/interactive site. One nifty feature of Drupal is that you can allow users to choose their preferred theme in the 'My Account' section (if enabled). Perhaps you could make some modifications to this base theme (with varied colors, larger type) so that users can choose the theme that best suits their style.

You may want to edit your allowed input formats. The current settings for 'Full HTML' can be abused. See discussion on Drupal.org for more.

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printer friendly pages

Terri Stone wrote: "You'll be happy to hear that the printer-friendly pages will be without ads in the near future."

Thank you... it will be very much appreciated.

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Nice site

I like the new site, it is simple and clean. there is a lot of information and the graphic elements don't compete with the information. With such a content heavy site that is always a difficult balance to achieve. Navigation is easy to understand. Good job!

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Printer-friendly pages WITHOUT ADS are coming!

Hello all,

Thanks for these helpful comments. You'll be happy to hear that the printer-friendly pages will be without ads in the near future.

Terri Stone
Editor in Chief, CreativePro.com

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new site

creativepro.com has been my home page for ever 8 years, but since the change it fails to catch my eye.

As a subscriber from the beginning, I feel that you broke something that was not in great need of a fix. The narrowed format gives me a good amount of wasted space on either side of the monitor. The new monochromatic scheme does nothing to help distinguish topics — they just blend into a sea of grey. By far the most annoying change is no longer being able to print an article cleanly, without the crap. Glad to see that so many others feel the same. The authors deserve better. We deserve better!

Regarding those of us "having trouble with reading online", I've got the glasses, I've got Firefox so I can Ctrl+ my way to the top of the eye chart — I don"t WANT to sit and read Gene Gable on the screen. He (and some others) deserves to be read in a comfy chair, feet up, beverage of choice close by and WITHOUT ADVERTISING!

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new site design

I'm afraid that I find this new design to be very generic-looking and even windows-like. Everything is so much monochromatic that its hard to separate headlines, text and formatting (except for the annoying blinking ads). It's so monochrom that it blends visually into the desktop of my screen around it.

I too preferred the cheerful sunny yellow and blue. It made me look forward to the page each time I opened it. I am personally getting really tired of the overdesigned Apple Chic, where everything is in six shades of white-to-light grey.

It is SO gray!

The new organization seem easier to navigate, however.

You are still a great site and source of valuable info and insight, though.

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Not bad. Just keep the iron warm.

The newsletter has a couple of wrinkles to address. First the plain-text version has text and links all over the place. It needs some order established. Second, the alt attributes on interface images needs to be set to "". Seeing the text "dotted-border02" between each feature in the sidebar is distracting. Overall, nice clean look. Very consistent with the website.

Cons on the website. It take a bit longer to load. Pros: most everything is on the homepage and only a click away for more information. I'm a fan of tabbed content to maximize the real estate on a page.

It's a monumental feat to take an existing site with so much content and move it into a new CMS, especially while trying to theme Drupal. (I'm trying myself on a much smaller scale. Decided to go with Wordpress though.) Overall very nice job.

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New site and type size

I didn't really use the previous site that much - just to read more of an article from links in the email newsletter so I'm looking at this fresh and think it works really well. I had no idea there were so many features on offer, which are all clear to find now.
As for type size, I too find it a tad small but am quite used to going to 'View > Make Text Bigger' in Safari, which works fine.
Well done and thank you.

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The new website

The site looks attractive, fresh, with-it. Like all changes, it'll take some getting used to. It doubtless will remain my favorite commercial site. Just one quibble:

Please turn off the blinking ads. Nothing online is more off-putting.

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Wish I could load your new site

I have looked forward to your daily articles for many years - until now. The new site design crashes Safari using OS 10.3.9. Unfortunately I had to use my roommates PC with Vista to view. I guess you lost a user?

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new site

i'm disaapointed with the new site- particularly with readability of the main column . It's busier, and harder to scan thru and grasp what's what.
Why? 'Cause the distinction between "ad" and "edit" has become harder to determine. I know ads pay some bills- but a simple indent for all of the ad messages would allow some instant clarification for my eyes.
But I do love the service ya'll providee, and do pursue ad and edit messages on the site.

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EDM harder to read

I know it was plain, but old digest e-newsletter was easy to read in my company's email. The new HTML version is horrible to read, with type at the bottom of the adverts and at the top of the article blurbs, it's clumped and spaced unreadably.
I'm also unhappy that you changed the site. It was really easy to use. And you got rid of printer-friendly pages? How could you?

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New site

I like the clean look of the new design. That's important, but secondary to great content, which is the main reason I have enjoyed a long relationship with Creative Pro.

Type point (pixel) size isn't an issue for me because I am able to control that either in my browser preferences, with a style sheet of my own or from my keyboard. I see you use a gray color for text. I know that's trendy like drop shadows. But you might consider switching to black for your text. It would increase contrast for the text, which might help text readability for readers struggling with the small type size.

Color is such a subjective thing, but on the web even more so because of monitor variances, age, calibration, resolution, color management, etc. Intent also directs color choices. The banner ads do pop more in the new design color than the old one. I don't have an issue with the ads. I prefer static ones over animated ones, though. If ad revenue keeps your service free, then I'm okay with them.

I'd like to not only see a printer-friendly option but also email links to authors.

Ricky

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A few of the places I'd tackle first:

I really love the site. I do have a few things that I'd like fixed on a "2.1" release:

1) The size of the site text really needs to be bigger. It is hard to read and type this small.
2) The main area for the article seems too narrow, mostly due to the size of the right sidebar. It is especially bad for content with related links. Please see nytimes.com, CNN.com and other information heavy sites for inspiration.
3) Less advertising, if at all possible.
4) The comment ordering is backwards, which makes it extremely hard to follow a conversation. Why buck this standard web convention?

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Please bring back the yellow

I loved the sunny yellow color. This is so drab, so cold, dull, doesn't make me want to read it. Please bring back the yellow. I get several newsletters that look just like this...your sunny yellow stood out.

Also hoped the new design would include comment area right after your letter, every article...little hard to find this area to make comment.

Sue Lowery
Windsock Media Publishing

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About the new site

All I wanted to add was a "ditto" about the printable version. I often prefer to read
offline and the articles in the new design print with type so small, I am barely able
to see what is written. If we can't get a printable version in the new design, I will
most definitely miss it...

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Printable version

Perhaps I'm just missing it but have you taken away the option to get a printable version of the articals? It is something that I liked about the old site, being able to print without all the ads included.

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We're listening!

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. This is great stufff, and very helpful for us as we tweak the new design.

Terri Stone
Editor in Chief, CreativePro.com

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Another progressive lens

Another progressive lens wearing geezer-in-training here.

Using Firefox, I've set its prefs to use my choice of font, and to not display below a certain point size. For me, it looks about the same relative size (given my monitor resolution and the distance I sit from it) as the body type in most any local newspaper. Folks are used to the size, and buy their reading glasses accordingly.

Having trouble with reading online? Then you really ought go to an ophthalmologist and get a pair of glasses which will make it comfortable for you to do so. If you spend a significant amount of time in front of a monitor—In my case that often stretches out to up to 15 hours a day—then a dedicated pair of glasses prescribed to ease your work should be as important a part of your tool set as a good chair, a good mouse, a favorite writing instrument.

And for those times when I don't happen to have my computer-work glasses handy (which is almost never), tapping Command - + a couple times increases the point size enough to ease the strain. That's why the shortcut is available.

As for the new design...I'm still becoming accustomed to the change. Things are different, to be sure, but I won't be too hasty to condemn it, or to suggest big changes until I've had a chance to get used to the changes.

For me, the most important thing is information density—I want a lot of compelling content, and I was it to be easily and intuitively navigable. I like captivating aesthetics as much as any discriminating eye, but not at the expense of gratuitous garish color, flash-based gee gaws, and the latest and greatest widgetry. If I might cite a parallel: There are sound reasons why traditional print media maintain their style and formats, often for decades. It's because they work.

My quick assessment: The new design is fine. Now, it should be incumbent upon the web dev/design team to pay attention to what visitors are saying and to slowly tweak things out. Just because a lot of time may have been spent on the new design before it went live doesn't necessarily mean it's finished.

Refine, refine, refine.

I've always said: Writing is easy; editing is hard. But it must be done.

The new CreativePro.com has been written. Now comes the hard part.

Best regards, and Cheers to the new design.

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Redesign issues

1. changing fontsize isn't working (via view menu), I have tested it with IE 6 and 7 on Win2k and WinXP.
2. it's a real pity that you stopped the "printer-friendly" version. Now articles are really unprintable/unreadable — the print button is just a javscript:print.window-command.
3. I would like to see print/printer-friendly version/e-mail buttons on top of the page. Very often I know already before reading that there's an interesting article which I would like to share or print — then I would have to scroll all way down ... (okay I'm lazy).
4. on WinXP IE 7 a lot of pictures aren't showing — I got a gray box with "animated picture" inside but not the actual picture.
5. The visual appearance is nice ;-)

Best regards,
Ulrich

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About the newsletter

Sorry to be harsh. I imagine a lot of work went into the new site, but…
I was very disappointed with the newsletter in particular - cluttered with obnoxious ads, flashing at you as you try to follow (very small) text placed in seemingly random, scattered blocks (and this forum page is even worse!). Was the main purpose of the redesign to squeeze in more ads?

The reviews & how-to's no longer have that "Print Version" option, so now printing carries along all the ads & the goofy screen layout - a big loss for those of us who still want to read when not at the computer.

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Type size

mid, I hate to admit it, but I AM a bifocal-wearing geezer, (drat!) but I'm glad we "see eye-to-eye" on the type... :-) Like the peace symbol (I love Gene Gable's wonderful articles), I will be 50 years old this year - Hence, my comment: THE TYPE IS WAY TINY! But I do like the new organization of the material, easy to find articles and tutorials. Just please, can we have larger type?? Please?

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I am feeling it

I am really liking the new site - You have improved the legability dramatically, particularly in the navigation. It seems very intuitive to get right where I want to go now. You are, as always, a great resource. Thanks for the improvements!

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Browser / OS compatibility

The image rotation on the front page loads weird in Safari (you can see the individual pictures stacked on top of each other before the rotation starts), and in FIrefox 2.0.0.12 the image rotation doesn't work at all, the 4 images are stacked on top of each other...running OS 10.5.2

I agree with mld about the colors...I think you could have kept the yellow but muted it a bit, as kind of a transition from the old to the new layout.

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About the new site

I have never been a big fan of yellow and on the old site it was really kinda in your face. But the new site is...how can I say it...well...boring. Really boring. Seems to operate better than the old site. Faster than the old site. Clean design. But the type is really small. And, no, I am not a bifocal-wearing geezer. Perhaps it's hip to use microscopic type. But, to me, it's usually just an indication that a site was designed by twenty-somethings who sometimes seem to think they are the only people in the world. Very competent site, but drab. All the colors in the world to choose from and you came up with gray, charcoal gray and blue gray? Dare I say it, I miss the energy of the old yellow.

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